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- From: marcoxa@lox.icsi.berkeley.edu (Marco Antoniotti)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.c++
- Subject: Re: Why garbage collection?
- Date: 01 Feb 1996 11:30:51 -0800
- Organization: International Computer Science Institute
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- In-reply-to: vlad@gramercy.ios.com's message of Thu, 01 Feb 1996 14:12:58 GMT
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- Ok. I made a mistake! I forgot the customary warning
-
- ":) :) FLAME BAIT AHEAD :) :)"
-
- In my original posting.
-
- But since we are at it, I want to complete the list of penances that
- have been required from me. (Please assume the warning is repeated here).
-
- 1 - C/C++ is the dominant language right now (as COBOL and FORTRAN
- were some time ago).
-
- 2 - Java is implemented in C and one of its design goals (crf the
- "White Paper") was to be "as familiar as possible to C/C++ programmers".
- (a lesson that maybe the Dylan developers should have taken into account)
-
- 3 - Common Lisp is dead.
-
- Having said so I will slowly type my parenthesis and 'defun' until I
- won't be forced by the powers that be to chase pointer leaks around my
- program. :)
-
- In article <4eqh8l$c9f@news2.ios.com> vlad@gramercy.ios.com (Vlastimil Adamovsky) writes:
-
- From: vlad@gramercy.ios.com (Vlastimil Adamovsky)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.c++
- Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 14:12:58 GMT
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- marcoxa@lox.icsi.berkeley.edu (Marco Antoniotti) wrote:
-
- >This is probably off-track, but, as a diversion, please bear this last
- >gripe of mine on the language which is going to be swapped away by
- >Java (no, it is not Lisp :) ).
-
- I wonder in what language is Java language implemented? Why is Java a
- "simplified" C++ (according to the creators)?
- Because for some people the programming language has to be simple,
- otherwise they are not able to work with it. But they are able to
- write thick books about its dead.
-
- ...
-
- >Half seriously yours
- No kidding...
- >International Computer Science Institute | marcoxa@icsi.berkeley.edu
- > ...it is simplicity that is difficult to make.
- Yes, and for some people it is difficult to deal with thing that are
- little more complicated than the simple one....
-
- *******************************************
- * Vlastimil Adamovsky *
- * Smalltalk, C++ and Envelop development *
- *******************************************
-
- I assume that Vlastimil advocates the use of INTERCAL as the proper
- language for Smalltalk and C++ environments construction. :)
-
- Happy programming to everybody, whatever language you use!
- --
- Marco Antoniotti - Resistente Umano
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- ...it is simplicity that is difficult to make.
- ...e` la semplicita` che e` difficile a farsi.
- Bertholdt Brecht
-